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Permalink Reply by Ken C on May 18, 2009 at 7:35pm
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Permalink Reply by Barry Lane on May 21, 2009 at 10:44am In response to Brenda and Ken's thoughtful comments I thought I would pose some questions to gnaw on.
1) What is research? And is "scientific" research different than other types?
2) Does what we call "scientific research" change when we hit the "real" world of the individual classroom?
3) Does the "teacher/researcher" type research suffer the same fate? (example: Steph Harvey and Nancie Atwell.)
4) Are we barking up the right tree to try and make a scientific standard for the classroom teacher? Is there an alternative to this approach?
Permalink Reply by Barry Lane on May 21, 2009 at 12:03pm I thought of one more prickly one.
Is the standards movement and it's relentless pursuit of "data," and quantifiable results helpful or hurtful to authentic learning?
Barry Lane said:In response to Brenda and Ken's thoughtful comments I thought I would pose some questions to gnaw on.
1) What is research? And is "scientific" research different than other types?
2) Does what we call "scientific research" change when we hit the "real" world of the individual classroom?
3) Does the "teacher/researcher" type research suffer the same fate? (example: Steph Harvey and Nancie Atwell.)
4) Are we barking up the right tree to try and make a scientific standard for the classroom teacher? Is there an alternative to this approach?
Permalink Reply by Barry Lane on May 21, 2009 at 5:46pm How do we create silence for learning when all people pay attention to in society is the noise of what was learned?
How do we change the conversation in education to learning and thinking and away from data ?
Barry Lane said:I thought of one more prickly one.
Is the standards movement and it's relentless pursuit of "data," and quantifiable results helpful or hurtful to authentic learning?
Barry Lane said:In response to Brenda and Ken's thoughtful comments I thought I would pose some questions to gnaw on.
1) What is research? And is "scientific" research different than other types?
2) Does what we call "scientific research" change when we hit the "real" world of the individual classroom?
3) Does the "teacher/researcher" type research suffer the same fate? (example: Steph Harvey and Nancie Atwell.)
4) Are we barking up the right tree to try and make a scientific standard for the classroom teacher? Is there an alternative to this approach?
Permalink Reply by Ken C on May 21, 2009 at 6:16pm
Permalink Reply by Barry Lane on May 21, 2009 at 9:43pm Helpful? Annoying? How about difficult!
Politicians and some administrators love "data" because it's about all they can fathom about what happens or does not happen in any given classroom. Thus, the wild success of standardized testing. And "data success" begets "data success," as we found out in Massachusetts where the MCAS is widely hailed as turning the state of education in this state around. (Why? Because our data shows that, when taught to the test, students perform better on tests. Go figure.)
As for "scientific research," I'll leave that for the humanists, Aristotelian types, and Enlightenment folks in our studio audience to wrangle over. "Science," after all, proves one year that coffee, butter, and eggs are bad for us, and then the next year that they are good for us. So much for the "foolproof" scientific method.
The bottom line? Anecdotal evidence needs a good PR campaign. Compared to those shiny statistics and cool percentages offered by the scientific, fill-in-the-bubble researchers, "mere words" are treated like the mysterious man come into town -- with suspicion and arched eyebrows.
I thought of one more prickly one.
Is the standards movement and it's relentless pursuit of "data," and quantifiable results helpful or hurtful to authentic learning?
Barry Lane said:In response to Brenda and Ken's thoughtful comments I thought I would pose some questions to gnaw on.
1) What is research? And is "scientific" research different than other types?
2) Does what we call "scientific research" change when we hit the "real" world of the individual classroom?
3) Does the "teacher/researcher" type research suffer the same fate? (example: Steph Harvey and Nancie Atwell.)
4) Are we barking up the right tree to try and make a scientific standard for the classroom teacher? Is there an alternative to this approach?
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